wonder if the GB have butlers?....that would be so funny if they sold stories too.
oz
i just saw it on cnn and there is only one story on google about it...........oomps.
a lot of it finiancial and coverups of some bad bank dealings etc.. and maybe giving money to some groups not ok with many?
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wonder if the GB have butlers?....that would be so funny if they sold stories too.
oz
a bit ago i posted a close family member was finally seeing the wts for what it isn't.
i spoke too soon and many warned me.
it turns out circular thinking has sunk it's teeth in deep and will not release.. it's very sad because i know what the end result is going to be.
We can NEVER be too sure about those we think are close to seeing the real truth.
Tempting to let our guard down and get hopes up, i remind myself of this frequently, which i why i am still here even though my kids are more out than in...
JWs are the vaccum cleaner religion.... can suck those on the fringes right back into the dust bag.
oz
a friend, non-jw, went to convention today.
she observed about 1/3 baptized were youth.. ***********************************************.
i read article:.
I wonder how many LEFT in the previous year of just that particular district... I would wager that 24 baptisms won't fill the gap.
Oz
i have never seen a watchtower library cd so this is a very basic question:.
if you get a 2003 watchtower library cd, does it contain all publications from the 1970's or so, up to 2003?.
then if you get the 2004 watchtower library cd, it will contain everything that the prior cd has, plus 1 years extra?.
I dont know all the answers to your questions...
i have 2010 and 2011 so i can say that each new version is not a 12 month top up.
but you should get it because soon enough i wouldn't be surprised to see the earlier publications dissapear from newer versions...
oz
Nice combover dude... and why is the wife wearing Losche's hair?
oz
if you were raised in a home with a jw parent and a non-jw parent: a few questions.. i am going to be addressing the international cultic studies association (icsa) in july at the conference in montreal.
my focus is on 3 groups.
the third group consists of people people who grew up in homes where one parent was a jw and the other wasn't.
oz
i recently finished reading animal farm, written by george orwell.
as someone who has recently awoken to the truth about the truth, this book blew my mind.
the parallels with the watchtower society are quite astounding.
The beauty of the book is not what it was originaly about, but that it causes people to QUESTION and analize their own situation in life, be it a political activist, a mormon or a Jehovah's witness.
A great tool for getting people to think...hopefully!
oz
i recently finished reading animal farm, written by george orwell.
as someone who has recently awoken to the truth about the truth, this book blew my mind.
the parallels with the watchtower society are quite astounding.
Great list and saved for later!
Even my 15 year old saw some of these when she read it, wait till i show her this list!!!
Thanks heaps
Oz
in light of a lot of the watchtower's kool aid articles.
Christians (and others) have always needed an enemy, a visible enemy.
Sure the devil is used but 'he' is still largely unreal to humanity, so various agents of him have to invented that can be seen.
For the JWs, it was the catholics, but then they lost interest in the JWs, the governments were a good invention as an enemy but in the developed nations they too lost interest in controling the JWs. There are a few that still try, but the publisher number in those countries is far le$$ than in the good ol USA, the land of first growth.
Now the apostate is the chosen agent of evil. every where and mostly faceless, the entity is ''diabolical and devious'', smarter than a catholic priest and more sneaky than the FBI. Unlike agent smith or father O'Flarety the apostate can hide as your husband, your favorite elder even.
The GB have transformed the apostate into the very transfiguration of satan himself. No wonder the JWs are freaking out.
Oz
fuck you.. i was raised in a jw family in the 1980's-1990's where we had to do the daily text 7 days a week during breakfast at the family table at 7am sharp between 7:00-7:15am.
this was followed by a "spiritual discussion," which was held every morning between 7:15am and 8:00am.. since we were homeschooled, our weekly field service was required from childhood on friday mornings immediately following the spiritual discussion, followed by saturday afternoon field service after the bookstudy, as well as sunday afternoon field service after the watchtower study.. i was also required to read each watchtower and awake magazine and give oral reports about each magazine i read in order for my father to be sure that i had actually read them.
i can't remember for sure, but i think each watchtower and awake was released every two weeks back then, making a new magazine to read every single week, followed by an oral report on every single article (including the watchtower study articles which i also had to read, then study in our weekly family watchtower study where we marked our answers, then studied again at the sunday watchtower study).. in addition to this, we also had a weekly family bible study at night each week, had a family bookstudy at night in which we marked our answers for the saturday morning bookstudy, had a family watchtower study at night where we marked our answers for the sunday morning watchtower study, had a family prayer together every night before bed, every morning before and after breakfast and every night before and after dinner (not including our half-family prayers for lunch by my mother since we were homeschooled.).
So are you going to stay with the victim mentality and drink yourself to an early grave or pull your socks up, realize a lot had it worse and get some self respect?
So you had a shitty childhood. It could have been worse too. You are an adult and can steer your life anyway you want...why circle the drain? All you are doing is providing JWs with proof that those who leave are miserable, unhappy and can't make it.
You owe it to your self to prove them wrong, every day you choose to drink away the misery you are in their power still.
get some help.
no apologies for being tough, starting a post to all with 'fuck you' doesn't gain you much sympathy. We were all fed a diet of Armageddon round the corner, me from 1972 on. I left believing i was doomed to die soon at the big A, but chose not to go self destruct. You can too.
Oz